Discussion in 'Moto Q 9h' started by ArieMcD, Mar 11, 2008.
Hell.. it's worth the hassle of re-installing/hacking all my stuff just to get wifi
Man I wish it was true...
There is a canadian company here which claims they can unlock wifi on some devices (something about some devices which were manufactured by samsung vs htc??) The non-samsung have the wifi which is disabled.
I might go and see if mine is one which has wifi (they have to open it up to see so I have to work up the courage to do it)
Samsung vs HTC ????
Um, Motorola manufacturers their own phones. Hell, they built and operate the Nextel iDen network. They have a hand in every aspect of the communications business. No one makes Motorola phones other than Motorola.
The company you are referring to says they can because the first run of Q9h's apparently still had the Wi-Fi chip, but later ones dont. Its been discussed here before, and the consensus is none of us have that early of a model. I had a Day One model, and I think even that was late.
After reading your post and my reply, I thought about that. But even then, its a bit of a stretch. It'd be a bit expensive to go through one of them, and also, the whole competition thing might get in the way.
I think we should get pictures of the inside, that way, we can know for sure.
Could you take some pictures anyway ???? Maybe close up on any letters you see on any chips, or just any letters you see in general. That will help go a long way in determining whats in the phone, and what isn't.
at one point i worked for R Sloutions (radio shack owned) kiosks that sold At&t (cingular then), Sprint/Nextel, and Alltel phones and contracts. i still have some buds that work there, which none of them are working today though, but hopefully if they get a return on one, and have to ship one off for refurb, i might be able to get them to let me up one up.
the kiosk doesn't open up untill 11am today, so another hour i'll call and see if they even carry the q in their at&t line up. (they might not since their not a corporate at&t store)
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no they don't offer the the q at the kiosk, so no pics from me :embarassed:
Little off topic no.... ?
Back to to Q9h and WiFi yes I believe the WiFi hardware is not in the Q9h but it will be in the hopefully soon to be released Q10.
Considering that Boy Genius received yet another Q9 from AT&T with WM 6.1 AND WiFi for review, I'm really starting to wonder if the soon-to-be-released WM 6.1 update for the Q9 Global will "unlock" the potentially built in WiFi on my Q9 Global.
I mean, one Q9 global with WM 6.1 and WiFi (AT&T branded no less) is one thing, but TWO AT&T branded Q9's with WM 6.1 and WiFi??? AT&T certainly seems to have a lot of these prototype/test bed Q9's with WiFi if they're sending upgraded phones to the same reviewer multiple times.....OR, the WiFi really does exist in all the Q9 Globals and the update will just unlock it (not too unlikely, seeing as we had to "unlock" our GPS hardware too).
I could be wrong, but I certainly hope I'm not.
Why would Moto want to hide something like this? This is a selling point that I think they should have marketed from the beginning. The only thing I can think of is that the software wasn't ready for launch. The Q that BGR has might be lacking GPS which would make it the world version.
I didn't have to "unlock" GPS. It just worked with both Google Maps and Windows Live - out of the box. I didn't purchase the "Get TeleNav GPS Navigator" which is still in my Applications folder.
I'm not sure what you mean by "world version". I have what I call the Euro version (as well as the AT&T one) - it doesn't have AT&T 3G bands - so I think since BG's has AT&T branding it's most likely got GPS on board.... unless they (AT&T) plan to offer 2 different versions.
Why would AT&T send Boy Genius the European model of the Q9 to review? If you think about it, that would make no sense at all. While it would have made the Q9 more appealing if WiFi had been offered on the Q9 initially, AT&T is REALLY pushing the 3G network that they have spent so much money to build out, and free WiFi everywhere would undercut their attempt to sell data plans on their 3G network. Inversely, T-Mobile pushes the WiFi on their smartphones and PDA's because they currently do NOT have a 3G network, but they do have not-free WiFi all over the USA. But now with AT&T taking over the Starbucks WiFi from T-Mobile, they may feel that being able to sell WiFi along with 3G makes perfect business sense NOW, so they MIGHT be using the next firmware upgrade to roll that out option out to existing devices.
One can only hope.
You have to "unlock" the GPS if you want to use almost any other GPS software (like TomTom or Route66). Only recently has navigation software been written to take advantage of the "new and improved" way that smartphones handle internal GPS. The unlocking process basically just inserts registry entries that allow other navigation programs to "see" the GPS hardware.
Calling MoTo As I Read This
Hang on and I will let you know what they say about this...... Cross Fingers.
OK Here Goes....
Just spoke with Eduardo (Motorola) and he stated the following.
No information on Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade availability.
Motorla is pleading the 5th on if the 6.1 update will incorporate Wi-Fi enablement. He stated all versions of the Q "Possibly" have Wi-Fi chipset internally but are disabled.
Worst news yet is... The Q9m and Q9c are atleast external Wi-Fi Compatible (Micro SD slot type) but the Q9h is not. Strange???
Man I hate this ATT game.
Please see the thread entitled, "W.M. 6.1 upgrade" for info on that.
I really think 6.1 will actually unlock the Wi-Fi. Its that way on both of the BGR Q9h's.
Its not all AT&T's fault. They can only release things so fast, and there are business decisions behind things. Most of the time, they benefit the customer, sometimes, they do not. Microsoft was quick to point out in their keynote speech that AT&T was fully behind them for 6.1, and they commended them on their support and work. All the phones that were used to demo 6.1 were AT&T phones. Just bear that in mind when 6.1 actually debuts.
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